September 26, 2013
Host: José Cárdenas
- The Arizona Hispanic Chamber of Commerce released its 17th annual DATOS report. According to the latest edition of "DATOS: The State of Arizona's Hispanic Market", about one third of the state's more than 67,000 Hispanic-owned businesses were started by immigrants. The report also concluded that statewide, Latino consumers spend more than $43.3 billion a year on goods and services. Monica Villalobos, Vice President of the Arizona Hispanic Chamber of Commerce and Ed Escobedo, a Board Member with the Arizona Hispanic Chamber of Commerce discuss the latest report.
- Monica Villalobos - Vice President, Arizona Hispanic Chamber of Commerce
- Ed Escobedo - Board Member, Arizona Hispanic Chamber of Commerce
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José Cárdenas: According to the latest edition of DATOS, The state of Arizona's Hispanic market, about one-third of the state's more than 67,000 Hispanic-owned businesses were started by immigrants. The report also concludes that statewide, Latino consumers spend more than $43.3 billion a year on goods and services. Here with me to talk more about the DATOS 2013 report are Monica Villalobos, Vice President of the Arizona Hispanic Chamber of Commerce. Also here is Ed Escobedo, a Board Member with the Arizona Hispanic Chamber of Commerce. Thank you both for joining us on "Horizonte." We were talking a little before the show started about how thick the information is this year. At least it seemed to me. Monica, let's start first with talking about how this particular report was prepared and how it might differ from what we have seen in the past?
Monica Villalobos: Sure. It is thicker because there is a great story to tell, and the way that we put this together, it's evolved in 17 years. It started as an academic reference, now it is more of a business tool. What we do is put together a group of subject matter experts from different fields, health care, retail, etc. And we're able to really compile the most comprehensive data in the marketplace and the most recent data as well. That is one of the things that's different. Also we're diving deeper in particular areas and categories. This year at the end we included a chapter on segmentation and acculturation. It is not here is all of this information, what do I do with it? We are giving you that next actionable step.
José Cárdenas: Monica referred to this as a tool. You are in business. In what way is it a tool that’s of use to the business community?
Ed Escobedo: At the University of Phoenix, we a national strategy to reach the Latino market. We have a great deal of effort and resources into meeting the needs of the market nationally, as the record shows, there are 53 million Hispanics across the country, and 2 million in the state. One of the things that we have also used, the report as a tool to inform our efforts, is meeting the needs of small business owners. There are 63,000 or so Hispanic businesses starting up in the state. And we are looking at using the report and the insights from the report to help us build curriculum, not necessarily always around degrees and academic content, but also non-degree content, certificates, things that meet the needs of the small business owners of the state. And the DATOS report is a way to help us get those insights and help us build a strategy that meets the needs of the market.
José Cárdenas: Monica, The report is chalk full of information. A lot of charts and graphs. It is almost a shame to pick a few, but I do want to give people a sense for what's in here. We have a series I want to go through. Three of them. First has to do with the percentage of U.S. population that Hispanics represent. It is up on the screen. One third of the total U.S. population by 2060, and it is already a very significant number.
Monica Villalobos: Yes, it is. And I think it -- it is just indicative of what is already happening in our state. It is already one third; Hispanics are already one third of the state of Arizona. And it really speaks again, to not just minority majority cities or minority majority states, but minority majority country ultimately. When you look at the economic growth and where that is going to come from, it is going to come from the Hispanic community.
José Cárdenas: The next chart has to do with common perception that the growth in the Hispanic population in Arizona and elsewhere comes predominantly from immigration, but that's really not the case.
Monica Villalobos: There are actually more U.S. born Hispanics now. That was the case years ago, where the balance was more foreign-born Hispanics in the U.S. Now it is more of a 60/40 U.S. born Hispanics.
José Cárdenas: And what does that mean for the business community? What is the impact?
Monica Villalobos: From a consumer standpoint, I like to say if you are in business in the state of Arizona, you are Hispanic business whether you know it or not; simply by the demographics. Your consumers are Hispanic, employee-base is mostly Hispanic and now you got this growing vendor base, corporation, and they're entering the supply chain.
José Cárdenas: I would assume one other difference is that Hispanics born in the United States are more likely to be bilingual and later to subsequent generations, predominantly English speakers.
Monica Villalobos: I think that's true. I think they’re comfortable in both languages at different levels. But it is a less issue of language and more of an issue of acculturation, formative years were spent, those kinds of things certainly make them more acculturated. It is not just a language issue anymore.
José Cárdenas: And our last chart has to do with something of great importance in both of your report and basically everything we see about in economic growth and that is Education, and in Arizona, we're already there in the K-12 system in terms of the number of students who are minority students.
Monica Villalobos: Yes, in 2012, we graduated more Hispanic seniors than any other group. And that obviously has implications for our College system as well.
José Cárdenas: And now they’re the majority in the K-12 system.
Monica Villalobos: Correct.
José Cárdenas: And, so, given the concerns about the graduation rate, you indicated that we graduated more, but there are still concerns that the gap between Hispanics and non-Hispanics is widening. What impact does that have on business?
Monica Villalobos: The Hispanic drop out is down 15% lower than it has ever been. I think we have a more talented pool, more students going into colleges as well. We know that minority business owners, Hispanic business owners, are 50% more likely to have a college degree. From the K to 12 we see where our business owners are coming from and where our talent pool for the employee base is coming from as well.
José Cárdenas: That is probably a good question for you as well given the business you are in, education business. What do these numbers mean for you?
Ed Escobedo: Well, you know, I think, as I said, informing our strategy. The other thing I would say, one thing we look for is industry specific competencies. As an example of the 67,000 Hispanic owned businesses in the state, some of them might be retail businesses. And so we have a relationship with the National Retail Federation. And what we're doing is we're working with them in the work force development team to build programs specifically that are geared to retail business owners in the state. That makes up a portion of the mix of Hispanic businesses in the state. And, again, it is helping us sort of with industry skills and we're bringing certificates, we're bringing non-degree content that professional development and leadership development.
José Cárdenas: One last question it has to do with the fact that a third of the businesses are owned by Latinos. What difference does that make to the businesses in this report?
Ed Escobedo: We can talk about that. One thing we reflect on as a board, it’s such an important and growing segment of our small business community and we definitely see the need for bringing skills to the Latino community. We do that through our work force development efforts out of the board. We have workshops we sponsor that are geared to building up mentorship and support for that segment of the population.
José Cárdenas: Thank you for joining us on “Horizonte.” Congratulations on another great report. It just keeps getting better and better. I’m we will have you back next year to talk about next year's report. Thank you for joining us.
Ed Escobedo & Monica Villalobos: Thank you.
Driver's License Ban
- Arizona, which is one of only two states that deny driver's licenses to young undocumented immigrants allowed to work and stay under the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program, has expanded the ban to include any immigrant granted deferred action from deportation. Kelly Flood, Senior staff attorney for the ACLU of Arizona discusses the policy change.
- Kelly Flood - Senior Staff Attorney, ACLU of Arizona
| Keywords: driver's licenses
, undocumented immigrants
José Cárdenas: Thank you for joining us. Arizona, which is one of only two states that deny driver's licenses to young undocumented immigrants allowed to work and stay under the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals, known as DACA, Program has expanded the ban to include any immigrant granted deferred action from deportation. Here with me to talk more about this policy change is Kelly Flood, senior staff attorney on the case for the ACLU of Arizona. Kelly, welcome back to "Horizonte." The case that we referred to in that introduction is the one that is pending before Judge Campbell right now. And as I understand the governor's action was a response to the last ruling by Judge Campbell. So let’s start with that what did he say that the state was responding to?
Kelly Flood: Well in the first hearing that we had in the case, where he determined whether or not he was going to stop the law from going into effect, or, excuse me, the policy, he noted to the state that the DACA recipients were similar to other immigrant groups in the state of Arizona who received employment authorization documents, EADs, from the federal government, in the past, any immigrant with an EAD had been given an opportunity to get a driver's license in the state of Arizona. So Judge Campbell said why are you just picking on this one group with the EAD, what makes them different from the other groups?
José Cárdenas: And this is in connection with your equal protection arguments.
Kelly Flood: Yes, correct.
José Cárdenas: It looks like your creating similarly situated different groups of people differently.
Kelly Flood: Exactly, right. He pointed out that there were numerous other groups who get EADs in a similar status to DACA recipients, such as crime victims and witnesses who are allowed to stay in the state for whatever period of time is necessary to conclude a case, and other immigrants who receive any sort of deferred status and are allowed to stay in the state and receive an EAD from the federal government and they were already all getting licenses prior to the initial ban that only excluded DACA recipients.
José Cárdenas: And the judge's ruling was several months ago, wasn't it?
Kelly Flood: Well that was last year. That initial ruling. And then the state indicated in the hearing that occurred, that from what the ruling resulted, well, we didn't realize that we were giving licenses to all of these other groups. We will go back and fix that. At another hearing earlier this spring, the state announced, okay, we're going to change our policy and we will announce it to everyone shortly. And we will talk about how it will impact this case. And then last week, the state announced the policy.
José Cárdenas: Let's talk about that policy. Exactly what is the new policy of the state of Arizona, as it relates to getting EADs, authorization documents to immigrants?
Kelly Flood: Well it doesn't impact who gets an EAD because that is determined by the federal government. But what it impacts is who gets a driver's license in state of Arizona. And the new policy from the state is that anyone an immigration status designation A11, C14, and C33 is not going to be good -- will not be allowed to get a driver's license.
José Cárdenas: You have to translate a little bit. What is the common theme in the three categories?
Kelly Flood: The common theme is the word deferred. It’s as if the state went through all of the immigration statuses that exist under the federal system and picked out any status that includes the word deferred in the description.
José Cárdenas: Other than the children that we're talking about, the students who have deferred status under DACA, and those are as I remember some of the criteria under 16 when they arrive and so on and so forth. What are the other categories of deferred action that are now impacted by the state's decisions?
Kelly Flood: Well folks with C14 designation, are deferred status; are deferred action as well. A host of people who may qualify for and get C14 status. Widows who were married for less than two years to a U.S. citizen, orphans, crime victims, crime witnesses, and other people according to the federal government are entitled to deferred status for any period of time that may be required under their circumstances. And there is a separate category, which is very interesting A11, deferred delayed departure, which currently only applies to Libyans. That is a little bit strange, but --
José Cárdenas: And the state insisted that these changes wouldn't impact in their view, truly deserving people. People who needed their driver's license to get a job and so on and so forth. That doesn't seem to be the case, at least not based on newspaper reports.
Kelly Flood: Right. As we saw on the front page of The Arizona Republic earlier there are numerous victims, sex trafficking victims who are affected by this because those are people who obtain their EADs, C14 status deferred action recipients and those folks might qualify or some of them might qualify for other avenues, such as the violence against women act and some of the other potential immigration status adjustments. However, many of them currently have C14, but what we have learned from immigration lawyers and advocates in the state, C14 is a go-to status for many immigrants because it is faster, more efficient, and it is easier to obtain than some of the other statuses like VAWA, Violence Against Women Act –
José Cárdenas: It may be hurting people that the state perhaps didn't intend to harm, but isn't it an adequate response to the judge's point? Are we treating people poorly, but we're treating everybody poorly, so doesn't that respond to the equal protection issue?
Kelly Flood: We don't think it solves the problem, no. First because it’s clear that the state's new policy was just a reaction to a lawsuit. There was no reason for them to do this other than to respond to what we and the judge pointed out.
José Cárdenas: Now why would the motive make any difference in terms of the judge's ruling?
Kelly Flood: The motive matters in this case because we have alleged that the state's policy violates equal protection. In order to survive an equal protection challenge, government has to establish that it made its decision to change a policy or rule based upon a rational basis, and in this case, rational basis plus. That is what the judge determined the standard to be previously. We don't believe making a choice to change a policy simply to prevail in a lawsuit would satisfy the rational basis plus test.
José Cárdenas: Well I guess we will find out soon enough whether the Judge Campbell agrees with you. Thank you for joining us to talk about it.
Kelly Flood: Thank you.
Get Covered America
- Get Covered America, is a nonpartisan campaign of Enroll America focused on engaging people about the new health insurance available under the Affordable Care Act (ACA). Pati Urias, Communications Lead for Arizona Enroll America, talks about the campaign.
- Pati Urias - Communications Lead, Arizona Enroll America
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José Cárdenas: Enrollment begins October 1st in Arizona's Expanded Medicaid Program and the Online Insurance Marketplace. Enroll America is an effort to enroll Arizonans into health insurance coverage under the Affordable Care Act. This nonprofit group is working with local health care and social service agencies to answer questions about the federal health care overhaul. Here with me tonight is Pati Urias, the communications lead for Enroll America in Arizona. Thank you for joining us on "Horizonte." This is the big topic of the day in part because of budget battles in Washington where the issue seems to be whether or not Obama care will be funded. It looks like it will and it will go forward. What are you doing to make sure that people get advantages promised under the Affordable Care Act?
Pati Urias: We're mounting a grass roots effort. We are knocking on doors. Meeting people where they meet, whether at farmers markets, college campuses, for example U of A or ASU, different places around Arizona to get in touch with people who may be uninsured, part of the one million people uninsured across Arizona that we need to reach to let them know that even though you don't have insurance now, your options are now available to you online, if you go through the marketplace which is being run by the federal government here in Arizona. And what they can do is we can put them in touch with a good chunk of our role is to primarily educate and put people in touch with certified application counselors, or navigators, who can help them sort through what needs they have in terms of health insurance, and navigate the system. Things they don't know or don't understand or questions that they don't understand that they need to ask that will help them choose a plan that will suit them and their families.
José Cárdenas: Give me a sense for the time periods. We keep hearing about October 1st. What happens on October 1st?
Pati Urias: October 1st is the opening date. It is by no means a deadline at all. People who decide that they want to take a look into the marketplace, the open marketplace, have until December 15th to enroll in a plan, if they want to be covered by the 1st of January. The marketplace itself will be open until March 31st. So, October 1st is by no means a deadline. It is the start of something that we're calling historic and people who, for example, may have been turned down for insurance before. Perhaps they've had cancer or another diagnosis. We have heard of one diagnosis of acne that prevented one person from getting coverage, prevented that one person from getting treatment for another disease. People who fall under that category will no longer be denied health coverage. They can explore new options under the marketplace.
José Cárdenas: The real focus, the one million people uninsured. What are you doing to reach out to them? How do you get the word out?
Pati Urias: We have volunteers, we have staff members who have organized in a very grass roots type of way to knock on those doors and hand people information, ask them if they're uninsured. And let them know the marketplace is opening up on October 1st. If you are not satisfied with the insurance coverage that you have now, this is a really good opportunity for you to take a look at the open marketplace and see if there is another type of plan that would suit your needs. Or maybe you haven't been able to get coverage. Maybe you didn't understand that you may be one of the 90% that could qualify for some type of subsidy or some type of tax benefit as a result of enrolling in the marketplace. We're trying to be very, very basic with the information and let them know where they can go to explore these options.
José Cárdenas: As I understand it, part of the promise of the Affordable Care Act is not simply that there will be insurance coverage, but as the title implies, it will be affordable. Do the materials that you provide explain how that all works? It is somewhat complicated, isn't it? A function of premiums and tax credits and so forth. How do you explain all of that?
Pati Urias: It is a lot to digest for a lot of people. A lot of confusion, misunderstandings. People don't understand what does it mean? What do I do? How do I get there? What we're trying to do is provide them with very, very basic information so that we can drive them to specific web sites, such as healthcare.GOV, and our web site for the campaign which is called getcoveredamerica.org. Those types of places where they can see -- get a hands-on look as to what it is going to offer. There are also some demonstration videos that the Department of Health and Human Services has put out on the YouTube channel.
José Cárdenas: I have seen a couple of those. It is like walking you through step by step how you apply, what are the kinds of questions, how -- what the qualification criterion are and so forth.
Pati Urias: We want to make sure that people understand that it will not be very intimidating. It will be very simple. For example, someone who is looking for an airline flight or maybe a hotel room somewhere on one of the many web sites that will do a search engine for you. In some respects, it will be as simple as that. So, we want people to know that even if you have coverage now, if it is not really quite meeting your needs, you can explore what new options are out there. If you want to take a look once the marketplace opens and gives you a better idea, better perspective of the types of rates you can expect to pay, what types of subsidies you may be eligible for or what types of tax credits that your family may qualify for.
José Cárdenas: Of what particular significance is all of this to the Latino community in Arizona?
Pati Urias: What we know from the statistics nationwide, of the eligible uninsured across the country, 25% of those are Latino. Here in Arizona, we have far more than that. Of the one million uninsured in Arizona, it’s 39% of the population. That's our estimate. We really do need to reach, in particular, young Latinos. Maybe to 18 to 35 year olds who don't really know that there is an option that is coming their way.
José Cárdenas: How are you doing that? What special outreach efforts are you making?
Pati Urias: We are meeting with a lot of our partners in the community, health care organizations that are also familiar with population. We are talking with media outlets. We are out and about in the community trying to get to people, where they meet, farmers markets I was mentioning, places where people shop, where people gather, to get them this information.
José Cárdenas: We did put the web site and the phone number on the screen. One last question. What about the predominantly Spanish-speaking people who might be eligible for this. What are you doing for them?
Pati Urias: We have volunteers who do speak Spanish for people who are more comfortable speaking Spanish. We also do have materials available in Spanish. And we are doing a lot of outreach efforts across the country with community groups that reach out to the Latino community.
José Cárdenas: Well it is a very important subject. I'm sure there is a lot more work to be done. Thank you so much, Pati, for joining us to talk about Enroll America.
Pati Urias: Thank you.