April 18, 2012
Host: Ted Simons
CD 8 Special Primary Election
- Arizona Republic Congressional reporter Rebekah Sanders discusses the outcome of the Republican primary election in the race to complete the remainder of former Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords’ term in office.
- Rebekah Sanders - Reporter at Arizona Republic
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Ted Simons: After yesterday's special primary election, we now know the candidates looking to complete the remainder of Gabrielle Giffords's term in congress. Here to tell us about the election and how the race is shaping up is Rebekah Sanders, the congressional reporter for the Arizona Republic. Good to see you again and thanks for joining us.
Rebekah Sanders: Thank you.
Ted Simons: So Jesse Kelly wins on the Republican side, correct?
Rebekah Sanders: That's right.
Ted Simons: Who is Jesse Kelly?
Rebekah Sanders: Jesse Kelly works with his father's construction firm. Is a former marine, served in the Iraq war. And more notably ran for Congress against Gabrielle Giffords. That's what the special election is for, is to fill the remain months of her term
Ted Simons: So he lost that election to Giffords but now Giffords will not complete her term he's running in the special election to complete that term. Who did he beat in the primary?
Rebekah Sanders: Several Republicans came out for this, and it was a crazy race. Only two months or so long, you know and people really had to get going fast and the other three were State Senator Frank Antinore. He served in the army, retired green beret and served in that area for, for several years and we also had Martha McSally, a retired air force pilot. She worked in Germany and elsewhere in the world on deployments and was no name candidate but really, got a lot of traction, and then Dave Sitton, the voice of the Wildcats. He announces sports games for the U of A, and runs a marketing company, and is known as a long-time businessman in the area with roots in the community.
Ted Simons: before we get to the Democratic side, McSally was a no name. Wound up second if I’m not mistaken. Is that name to watch down there?
Rebekah Sanders: I think that she has gotten a lot of play in the national media. She's really kind of impressed people in the short time frame that she has been on the ground in the election. Interestingly she's on the Republican side, but people kind of have started comparing her bit to Giffords, as a go-getter woman who has pushed gender barriers, and more notably, she really tries to tread the line of not going too far to the right in the stances that she puts forward and tries to play to the middle like Giffords did.
Ted Simons: Jesse Kelly plays to the right as far as the tea party support and those kinds of things. Let's go to the Democrats and find out who Ron Barber is because that's, basically, he is the candidate.
Rebekah Sanders: Yes. Here in the special election, just for the remaining months, Ron Barber is unopposed, the former district director forgive Giffords, and was injured the day that she was in the shooting in Tucson last year has a lot of relationships within the community, but also is this candidate who is not really known by name that well. But, he will face some, some competition in the next election for the next term.
Ted Simons: And we should mention this is to complete CD 8, and that folds into the same region, I should say, folds into CD 2, a brand new kind of a district down there. Next go around so whoever -- well, let's talk about this, whoever wins the special election, they have leg up, I would think, on the CD 2 race coming up. But whoever loses this, would they still be that party's candidate, do you think? If Barber loses or Kelly does, are we going to see them again in the CD race?
Rebekah Sanders: The only thing for sure in the next six months or so is craziness. We have got these two elections, basically, overlapping each other. One for the term through January. One for the term that will start in January and go for two years. And if the winner of this special election goes on, will definitely go on to have an advantage. They will have incumbent status, and they will have proved themselves and also, the voter turnout will be better, in you know, August and November. But, for instance, if Ron Barber or Jesse Kelly were to lose the special election, it might, actually, open up the door for the challengers to really say, well look, the voters didn't like this candidate, the first time around, or the second time around, you know, go for me.
Ted Simons: And describe that district. Describe District 8 as it stands right now. Is it leaning slightly Republican?
Rebekah Sanders: That's right. It's one of the more competitive districts in Arizona right now for the special election, it leans heavier Republican, and it will be slightly less Republican for the full term election.
Ted Simons: What does that mean for a Democrat like Ron Barber bus obviously, the numbers may not be in his favor, but being such a close personal friend, aid to Gabrielle Giffords, that's huge.
Rebekah Sanders: Yeah. Her support is going to be factor, and there is still raw emotions down there. When I was report on a debate in Tucson, among the republicans, one of the moderators choked up talking about the shooting, but that being said, I think that voters are really looking for the issues and finding out about the candidates. I don't think that it's going to be only about a sympathy vote.
Ted Simons: And with that in mind, and Jesse Kelly, again, coming in having lost to Gabrielle Giffords once. And playing pretty far to the right in terms of the primary, were concerned, will he have to move to the center a bit in the general election? And when is the general election, by the way?
Rebekah Sanders: General election for the special election is June 12. So not much time before then, it's really going to heat up quickly, especially now that we have got the two nominees and we'll probably see a lot of party money flowing in for both candidates because both Republicans and Democrats really want to claim this seat.
Ted Simons: Last question here, I would think this would be something that a lot of political observers will be watching to see what the temperature is of the electorate out there?
Rebekah Sanders: It should help give some direction on how well the normal elections go in the fall. Although everyone says look, these special elections are often unusual, which are really hard to predict.
Ted Simons: All right, well, it will be fascinating to watch because obviously, Gabrielle Giffords involved, everyone is paying attention and it should be --
Rebekah Sanders: June 12.
Ted Simons: Ok. We have got to go good to see and you thanks for joining us.
Rebekah Sanders: Thanks a lot.
Economic Growth: Chandler & Intel
- Chandler Mayor Jay Tibshraeny talks about the potential economic impact of Intel’s new $5 billion fabrication facility that’s currently being built in his city and what Chandler has done to position itself as a leading manufacturing hub for the state’s high tech industry.
- Jay Tibshraeny - Mayor, Chandler
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Ted Simons: In our continuing coverage of the valley's economic growth. We focus on Chandler's development for the high-tech manufacturing industry. It's a sector anchored by Intel, which is currently building a $5 billion manufacturing plant in Chandler. Joining us now to talk about the impact high-tech has on his city is Chandler Mayor Jay Tibshraeny. Thanks for joining us. What's the status of this thing?
Jay Tibshraeny: it's billion with a b. And it's under construction. It's a significant project. I think that sometimes we take it for granted when we have an Intel in our city or state, but there is a project of worldwide recognition. It is the second largest construction project in the world. The only project that was larger over last year has been the, the London Olympics.
Ted Simons: that bears repeating. Other than the Olympics, nowhere else in the world is something of this size going on.
Jay Tibshraeny: Nowhere. Just in chandler. $5 billion project. Just to get people an idea of the scope of the project, at any one time there is 3,000 or 4,000 construction workers on-site at any time. It's like a little city. There is, throughout the course of the project, there will be over 7,000 construction workers, different construction workers.
Ted Simons: Let's talk about the impact right now. With those construction workers, with the contractors. What are you seeing? It sounds like the sales tax revenues are up?
Jay Tibshraeny: Our revenues are up. The significance of the sales tax on the construction is, because there is construction and sales tax, for the city and for the state so those numbers are up significantly. And all the workers. There's not a day that I can't go downtown and see, I’m here, I came in from the east coast and I’m an ironworker. I am working at the Intel plant. I am staying here in your community. I am using your restaurants and your towns. A significant impact on the construction alone.
Ted Simons: The hotels? Doing very well?
Jay Tibshraeny: Yeah. They are. All of the sales tax related categories are doing well, and some of that's because the economy is better. A lot of that is because the Intel has brought a lot of people into the city.
Ted Simons: And does that fluctuate? There is a point that it goes to A, and then B and C and how do you see that working out here in the coming here's, I guess?
Jay Tibshraeny: well, that site is a 700-acre site so this is fab 42, to give folks an idea. We had fab 12. We had fab 22. We had fab 32. And now 42. So there's been a constant stream of construction activity in Chandler. Since 1998, Intel in Chandler spent 12 billion on construction, so we have had a stream of activity in our community. This particular project, when it's done, and it will be operational about a year and a half from now. You have the shell, and then you have all that finite equipment that goes in, and that's where 5 billion is, it's in that equipment and setting that up. When they are done, they will have 1,000 new permanent workers, high-paid salary workers at the plant. So, we're pretty that you said about that. So there is continuing thing. People are looking for houses so they can be close to the plant. And engineer types, high-paid types.
Ted Simons: As far as the city is concerned, what does this do to offset the property taxes? And to impact other areas of the economy?
Jay Tibshraeny: It helps. The revenues coming in have helped us to weather the recession. We were able to pay down bonds with one-time money. You can attribute that it Intel and other one-time funds. That helped us to maintain the property tax rate and with assessed values going down people will see property rate decrease, at least for the city portion of the property tax. So there is a lot of benefits. Plus Intel is such a good corporate citizen in our community and all they do in the schools and in the city and the nonprofits and the social media and very good corporate citizen.
Ted Simons: As a city leader you look at different businesses, and ways to get industry and different sectors if, you will. The high-tech sector, how does that differ in good things? Challenges city faces?
Jay Tibshraeny: It's a challenge. We have a lot of good businesses. Chandler has led the state in attracting jobs and industry, but this particular industry and the plant, itself, presents unique challenge as a city. The water and sewer alone on a project like this, is $200 million. The city and Intel has to bear the brunt of those costs putting those infrastructures in. And so, there is a real command on our staff. And on the city to make sure that we do it right, that Intel pays their fair share, but then just to implement it, put in 200 million of water and sewer, to serve that plant, is a major undertaking, so, it's very challenging. We are working with the legislature this year because when I say, talk about 200 million of, of infrastructure, the city, alone, can't undertake that, and besides, it's difficult for the company. We are working on bill that's going through the legislature that would help with infrastructure costs for major manufacturing facilities. Like this. It's Senate Bill 1442. It has worked its way through the House and the Senate and back in the Senate now.
Ted Simons: What response is that getting?
Jay Tibshraeny: Pretty good. It passed with good votes it, passed with good votes out of the House, and they have got some work to do, and they want to make sure that, that we address any concerns that the governor has before we send it up to then, but that would help with infrastructure related costs for major manufacturing facilities in the state. We need that if we are going to attract the Intels of the world.
Ted Simons: And for city like Chandler and for any, really, any municipality, can you be too dependent on one industry, one industry leader? Intel is not just a big gorilla out there, that's the big thing in the corner of the room. Can you be too dependent on that?
Jay Tibshraeny: I think a city could be, and we try to be very diverse, but it's so -- the size of the projects are so large, that there is always probably bit of a risk of that. So, we do continually try to diversify in chandler and have other types of sectors in our community. There is no question that that's big part of, of our, our industry base. And they have two plants in Arizona. they are both in Chandler. One on the west side, which does a significant, a couple hundred million a year in R and D work, research and development, on 170 acres. They are not built out, but the fab 42, where that is, they bought 700 acres in the 1990s when I was mayor the first time around. And they are building on that and they have a lot of room to expand. But, there will be expansion. So we have to find a good balancing act there.
Ted Simons: So the market is not so volatile that there are concerns somewhere down the road that some bumps in the road could be popping up?
Jay Tibshraeny: As a mayor and city leader, we always work about everything. It's a good worry to have. But nonetheless, it is worry. They employ 11,000 people in our city. Chandler is the fourth largest city in the state. And at one time, not too many years ago, that was about our entire population in Chandler. 11,000 people. 30, 35 years ago.
Ted Simons: Things are happening out there. It's good to get an entertainment. Good to see you.
Jay Tibshraeny: Nice to see you and thanks for having me.
Ted Simons: You bet.
- An Arizona Capitol Times reporter provides a mid-week update on news from the Arizona State Legislature.
- Luige del Puerto - Reporter at Arizona Capitol Times
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Ted Simons: Good evening and welcome to "Arizona Horizon." I'm Ted Simons. The governor vetoes a bill that allows guns and public buildings and tells lawmakers not to send any more bills until they pass a budget. Here with more on our update is Luige del Puerto of the Arizona Capitol Times. Good to see you. Let's start with their idea that the governor is not going to sign any more bills until the budget bill shows up. What's going on here?
Luige del Puerto: on the 100th day in session, which is self imposed deadline for the legislature, to wrap up things, they had not done it this, this, in this session, the governor said, told, told the House Speaker that unless they get a budget out, she's not going to sign any more bills and the Senate, which aptly scheduled to vote on a couple of bills and ones they are voted on they would be sent to the governor. They decided we're not going to risk that and canceled voting.
Ted Simons: I thought I saw a vote saying we're going to continue to pass bills. And they are saying, we'll hold off?
Luige del Puerto: The leadership saying that they are going to heed the governor's request, of course, they are also trying to downplay the governor's demand to send her bills. I don't know how you downplay something as emphatic if you sent me bill, I will veto it, and until, until we get a budget?
Ted Simons: That's plain language there. And the bills already are on her desk, and she will consider those?
Luige del Puerto: She will consider those. She signed a few more bills this afternoon. But, any additional bills and I guess the moratorium, if you want to call it, will be in place for the next couple of days or so.
Ted Simons: Does this indicate and I think that I know the answer here, is that talks have hit a snag? They are not going as smoothly as we had thought?
Luige del Puerto: the assurances from leadership since they started negotiating, had been that the talks were going very well and etc., but this, clearly, shows or indicates a frustration, at least on the part of the governor, the pace of things, how the budget talks are progressing.
Ted Simons: And that being said, how many folks at the legislature really know what is going on with the budget?
Luige del Puerto: the complaint that I’ve been hearing from the Republicans is that they really don't know a lot. They have had, I think, two budget briefings. But, they have only been given an overview of where the budget talks are and outstanding differences between the governor and the, the legislature. But, really, the people who know what is going on, what's in the budget, and where it is, are members of the leadership.
Ted Simons: So basically, if Republicans don't know what's going on, Democrats are back in the dark ages? Are they showing up?
Luige del Puerto: Showing up to, to the session. They are some bills they are working on, and but, you are right, they are completely in the dark. Republicans are not getting details of the budget, so they are getting details.
Ted Simons: The governor did veto the guns in public buildings bill.
Luige del Puerto: This is the second time the governor vetoed that, allowing weapons in public, meaning city councils or county building. The governor, essentially said -- well, let me backtrack, I think the second veto really shows the governor does not only have problems with the legislation or the language, but really uncomfortable, with the idea of allowing guns in public places. She said that, that there is legitimacy, and she called it Justice Scalia, and she said there is a place for -- there is a legitimacy for not allowing guns in public places, where, you know, policies are made and the emotions can run high.
Ted Simons: And we're talking city halls, and courts, and swimming pools and libraries and these things. You mentioned the last veto. She referred to the wording of that bill, not being up to snuff. And I know that, that some lawmakers thought the wording of this attempt was better. Apparently not?
Luige del Puerto: They tried to address the governor's veto last year. And I go back to what I said earlier. The governor is uncomfortable just with the idea of allowing guns in public places. There's been concerted effort by the groups and law enforcement, and Mary Rose Wilcox, who survived a shooting incident in the 1997, basically, they said that this is not good for the state and it's just common sense we don't allow guns in public buildings.
Ted Simons: You mentioned that it's getting -- the session is getting long. They have gone past 100 days and tempers are frayed. I saw a bit about that on topic as incident as tax credits for filming.
Luige del Puerto: Yeah. This idea of getting a tax credit for the film industry has been around for many years. They let the tax credit expire in 2010 and she they have been trying to revive t this is the third year that they tried to do it so they did a strike on the bill, and yesterday during caucus, they have an informal rule that says, if a member of the Republican majority objects to bill, that bill may be held in caucus and unless the supporter of the bill show enough support, which is more than half of the caucus support it. So, Ron Gould objected and John Nelsen said, you know, here's my laundry list. Ron Gould wanted a copy of that list because to his mind some may be sign it go and not voting for it when the time comes when they vote on the bill. But they would not pass down the list, so he got up and went over to Nelson's side, which is where the majority sits and, and got the, the laundry list. And Nelsen, he looked visibly upset and for a few seconds, Gould was holding the laundry list over his head and Nelsen wanted it back, and Gould surrendered it, and they left it at that.
Ted Simons: This sounds like junior high school down there.
Luige del Puerto: This time of the year, when you have lawmakers there, sitting three or four hours, each day, and they are not doing much, you could see tensions like that.
Ted Simons: So basically, it can get testier still because no one knows if it will get pass, nothing is going to get signed, so we could have hijinks on the playground?
Luige del Puerto: That is very likely.
Ted Simons: All right. Good to have you here and thanks for joining us.
Luige del Puerto: Thank you.