Horizon, Host: Ted Simons

September 29, 2011


Host: Ted Simons

ASU and Mayo Clinic

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  • The latest news on the partnership between ASU and the Mayo Clinic with ASU President Dr. Michael Crow and Dr. Wyatt Decker, CEO of the Mayo Clinic in Arizona.
Guests:
  • Dr. Michael Crow - ASU President
  • Dr. Wyatt Decker - CEO, Mayo Clinic in Arizona
Category: Education   |   Keywords: ASU, mayo clinic, health, education,

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Ted Simons: Arizona is getting a new medical school. This week the Mayo Clinic Announced plans to establish a Branch of the mayo medical School on its Scottsdale campus. The new school will be called Mayo Medical School Arizona Campus, and it will feature a key collaboration with Arizona State University. Here to talk about the school And how it will impact health Care and health education is Dr. Wyatt Decker, CEO of the Mayo Clinic in Arizona, and ASU President Dr. Michael Crow.
Ted Simons: Good to see you both on "Horizon." Thanks for joining us.
Wyatt Decker: Great to meet you.
Dr. Michael Crow: Thank you.
Ted Simons: $266 million branch here and this will be connected to the existing campus?

Wyatt Decker: That's right. The medical school facility will be on our Scottsdale campus.

Ted Simons: How many students are you anticipating here?

Wyatt Decker: 48 students will be admitted to each class.

Ted Simons: And basically remodeling the existing structures, not much in the way of new construction I would imagine?

Wyatt Decker: That’s right. We'll be refitting existing facilities to accommodate the Medical school.

Ted Simons: I understand a joint degree program is involved here. Can you explain that for us?

Dr. Michael Crow: Yes. ASU through our partnership with Mayo Clinic will focus on a graduate degree in the science of health care delivery, which will be a component part of producing a more broadly educated type of physician.

Ted Simons: And that means someone with different health care delivery systems, different personalized approach, these sorts of things?

Dr. Michael Crow: It means everything. It means scientific aspects of enhancing health outcomes, understanding health outcomes, personalized medicine aspects, biomedical informatics, a range of those things together.

Ted Simons: So the medical degree comes from Mayo Clinic, correct?

Wyatt Decker: That’s correct. But even the medical degree will include collaboration with our colleagues at ASU. So the degree and the embedded masters training in the science of health care delivery will be fully integrated together in the curriculum and will involve collaboration with ASU and the Mayo Clinic.

Ted Simons: Is that different than from what we see at other medical Schools around the country?

Wyatt Decker: Absolutely. We're incredibly excited about this medical school. Not only because the nation has national shortage of physicians. And this will help and Arizona's actually ranked 37th in the Nation in terms of physicians per 1,000 population, so this will help with physician supply, but more exciting is the element Of the science of health care delivery and the curriculum the students will be trained in.

Ted Simons: Some of the basics, students will be based in Scottsdale, based in Tempe, in downtown? Where will they be focusing their attention?

Dr. Michael Crow: Medical students will concentrate their initial years On the Scottsdale campus, but they’ll be working in the rest of the clinic for their third and fourth year. ASU faculty will be a part of all of that. So it's not a single place, it's not like students sitting in a room, they'll be part of the Mayo Clinic organization on its multiple campuses, and they'll be engaging in learning Experiences and teaching experiences everywhere.

Ted Simons: Isn’t there, like a biomedical informatics already there -- talk to us about that.

Dr. Michael Crow: ASU moved our department of biomedical informatics into the Mayo Clinic and it has become a joint initiative in the sense where biomedical informatics, which is an undergraduate and graduate degree program for us in a research intensive unit for us, is already on the Scottsdale campus and is connecting to the Rochester campus and the Jacksonville campus so it's a part of our overall collaboration.

Ted Simons: I was going to ask you, why ASU? Why the collaboration there? Dr. Crow gave us a pretty good example.

Wyatt Decker: Well, it’s a perfect example. I think it's unusual to see the level of collaboration that we’re seeing between a major university and a big academic Medical center such as Mayo Clinic. We feel it's a perfect union of forces in that ASU's mission to deliver outstanding education that impacts society and Mayo Clinic's mission to deliver outstanding value driven care are very closely aligned.

Ted Simons: And I ask why ASU, why Mayo Clinic? As we all know, the UofA had a deal that kind of fell through. What's different here?

Dr. Michael Crow: I think what's different is That Mayo Clinic is a Comprehensive nationally based nationally focused Clinical -- comprehensive clinical organization. ASU is a comprehensive University that we have hundreds of subjects. If you take a comprehensive clinical organization and a comprehensive university, and you find ways to overlap, there are many things that you can work on together. And in a sense there's no medical school between us. So we're able to advance without a medical school, providing all of the assets that we have to The Mayo Clinic as a comprehensive clinical enterprise, and it just is a fantastic new way to advance the overall health outcomes of the broader population.

Ted Simons: How did the idea get started, how long did it take to get to this point?

Dr. Michael Crow: We have been working with Mayo Clinic for about nine years on a range of initiative, multiple research projects, research initiatives, and research laboratories, joint degree programs, nursing programs, a wide range of things. And these discussions relative to the medical school have been underway for a couple of years, from a conceptualization perspective and have just reached fruition.

Ted Simons: As far as reaching fruition and getting this going, there still needs to be some financing to make this a done deal?

Wyatt Decker: That’s correct. To launch the medical school, we will be looking to raise about $75 million in philanthropy, and that will be complemented by an investment of the Mayo Clinic of $45 million. Ultimately as you mentioned, it will require about $266 million to endow the medical center in perpetuity. So it's a big lift.

Ted Simons: But as far as just getting things started and getting the process underway, probably I would imagine not the full 266.

Wyatt Decker: That’s correct. So we at Mayo Clinic have already committed the funding for the $45 million, we will need to raise a commitment up to $75 million before the med school opens its doors.

Ted Simons: And when do you think the med School could open its doors?

Dr. Michael Crow: The target is the fall of 2014 and the university is committed to advance our component parts through our own university planning and university activities.

Ted Simons: Why does the valley, which sorely needed a medical school and may now be looking at two and certainly there are others in the valley as well, but why does the valley need in this case another medical school?

Dr. Michael Crow: Well, it's not about how many medical schools are needed or just about the number of physicians that are produced. But it's really about finding new ways to deliver health care at a lower cost tomorrow Do that you need to do a number Of things, including finding ways to produce doctors that are differentiated, that have a Broader set of skills and find new ways to work together between clinical organizations and universities. So what we're really after, the ultimate outcome here is enhanced health care delivery at a lower cost on a large scale. And this is a part of all of that.

Ted Simons: and obviously the other Mayo Campuses are a part of this as well.

Wyatt Decker: That's correct.

Ted Simons: Is that going to be difficult, logistically speaking, is that going to be a challenge?

Wyatt Decker: No. We do not expect so. So the students that matriculate here in Arizona will live and be based in Arizona. They'll live here and have opportunities to rotate clinically at our other facilities in Minnesota or Florida, and currently our Mayo medical students who are in -- based in Minnesota come to rotate at a clinic in Arizona, and actually many have enrolled in degree programs simultaneously with ASU.

Ted Simons: I remember when Mayo Clinic First came out to Arizona, It -- that was a big deal. The Mayo Clinic is coming! Why did the Mayo Clinic come here? And why -- this is quite the commitment to Arizona. This is not a pull up the stakes in another five years and you're out. Why the commitment?

Wyatt Decker: Mayo Clinic sees Arizona as a terrific opportunity to deliver the kind of care that we offer. And that's an integrated multidisciplinary approach to high values or very efficient models of care. We think that through the partnership with ASU, we're in a unique setting to really move medical education forward, and Do an even better job caring for our patients in the valley.

Ted Simons: And you're seeing that obviously as well. This has to be a pretty good opportunity to try some new things, innovative things and get ASU on the map as far as this medical research and education is concerned.

Dr. Michael Crow: Well our focus is really on changing health outcomes. So what we're doing is take our Relationship with the Mayo Clinic, we're building a new program in nutrition and Nutrition-related areas, we're Building this new unit related To the science of health care Delivery. We already have a relationship related to nursing, biomedical informatics. We're trying to piece all of the things together that can help lay down In a sense the intellectual Track that can get health care Moving in a new direction, and Our relationship with the Mayo Clinic helps us to be able to do That. We need new track because right Now we have a grossly underperforming and excessively expensive health care Enterprise, so we need new Approaches. Mayo is committed to new Approaches and we're trying to be of assistance to them.

Ted Simons: And Arizona is the land of new approaches.

Wyatt Decker: Absolutely. And the concept of the science Of health care delivery really Will be a game changer in Medical education is currently physicians are trained in all medical schools to be technically competent and provide compassionate care. But imagine if you would a Patient who suffers chest pain and is having a heart attack. They go to an emergency Department in the hospital, the Care they receive can be technically excellent, but the Providers traditionally have almost no education in the System, the system that could have perhaps prevented this Incident in the first place, and Once that patient arrives how do They get there. Was it efficient and safe? Once they're in the system, how well coordinate second degree their care. Those are the elements by Utilizing better data analysis and systems engineering that we believe that physicians formally trained in these techniques will be able to contribute to health Care.

Ted Simons: All right. We'll keep an eye on the progress and hopefully 2014 we’ll see the first -- the Beginning of a great Relationship. Gentlemen, thank you so much.

Wyatt Decker: Great to be here. Thank you.

Dr. Michael Crow: Thank you.

Centennial Theatre Foundation

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  • Organized to develop and fund new plays that focus on the Arizona experience, the Centennial Theatre Foundation’s first event is a staged reading by the cast of the play, The Wallace & Ladmo Show. Find out more about the project with CTF Executive Director Ben Tyler.
Guests:
  • Ben Tyler - CTF Executive Director
Category: The Arts   |   Keywords: art, theatre, foundation, centennial,

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Ted Simons: Tonight's edition of "Arizona Artbeat" shines the Spotlight on the Centennial Theater foundation. The group's mission is to produce plays about the Arizona Experience. Designated an official state Centennial legacy project, Foundation launches Saturday With the staged reading of a Play about the "Wallace and Ladmo show." Here with more is Ben Tyler, long-time Arizona playwright and Executive director of the Centennial theater foundation. Good to see you.

Ben Tyler: Thank you. Well said.

Ted Simons: Well thank you. Let's keep it saying it. What is the centennial theater Foundation?

Ben Tyler: I have been writing plays About Arizona myself for quite a While. It goes back to early '90s with "gut the musical." It's something that's always been my special interest, writing plays about this area. And so when the centennial started rolling around, I Thought I’d really like to see more playwrights do this and More theater companies producing Them. The hit on Arizona has always been everyone is from somewhere Else, right? And there really is no Arizona I’d., identification, someone you think of someone from Chicago or New York, or those Kind of cities and you think, a Particular kind of thing. Well, it's not that way anymore with Arizona. So when we say defining Arizona Through life theater that's what We mean, plays that are not Necessarily historical in Nature, though that's my Particular bent, but plays that Define the people and the Region, and what Arizona is.

Ted Simons: So how often would these plays be presented?

Ben Tyler: That's a great question, Ted. I really don't know. It's rather -- it's a little audacious to call yourself a Foundation when no lady has died and left you a pot of money. It's got to start sometime. I would like to see us at least Do something once a year but we have about a half dozen companies now that are listed with us as participating theater companies. The way it works, just briefly –
Ted Simons: Sure
Ben Tyler: Just in a nutshell - we are soliciting scripts, Arizona themed plays. We develop them through staged readings, taking them around the State, the foundation does this, and at that point once the play has been developed and polished, if one of these participating theater companies wants to produce it, the foundation pays for the production.

Ted Simons: you're basically auditioning these things for the theater Companies.

Ben Tyler: absolutely.

Ted Simons: And they're expressing interest?

Ben Tyler: Yes. We have a few right now. I'm working with Desert Foothills Theater in Carefree, Actors Theater, Phoenix, who Works just down the street at the Herberger. They're coproducing the "Wallace And Ladmo show," and we have Another play, a one-man show About the Senator Barry Goldwater that's going to be Produced by Arizona Jewish Theater company at least as a Staged meeting in November.

Ted Simons: You mentioned the foundation, A very encouraging word on your Part.
Ben Tyler: Yes
Ted Simons: How is this funded and how is that going to affect what gets done?

Ted Simons: you sound like every theater Producer in town. Where's the money coming from, Ben? That's a great question. Our centennial is so Underfunded, Arizona is strapped. I have the greatest fear that our campuses celebration is going to be two bottle rockets and a boom box. So I am approaching the private Sector and saying, this is something that these plays can Be ambassadors for Arizona. We get -- I grew up here, I’ve Been born and raised here. We get a bad hit from the rest of the country due to people like some of the elected Officials that are still around There, I won't mention their Names, and I think there's so Much to be proud of this state. And that's what I think these Plays can do. So that's why we're going to be calling on the private sector to Step up to the plate and fund some of these things.

Ted Simons: We're looking at some stills here; anyone who was here at the Time remembers that. Will they remember Mr. Conservative, Barry Goldwater? Escape from Papago Park --

Ben Tyler: God bless you Ted.

Ted Simons: I remember all that stuff! And then you got the "Wallace and Ladmo show," which arguably, Except for -- probably the most Popular?

Ben Tyler: I think so.

Ted Simons: why? Why are you doing this?

Ben Tyler: I worked for the "Wallace and Ladmo show" for just a couple of Years. But guy back further. We're took the staged reading at the very first television Station that was ever built in Arizona and operated, the old KPHO building.

Ted Simons: this is Saturday?

Ben Tyler: correct. October 1st. I was 8 years old in 1965. I got my postcard pulled out of the barrel; my mom drove me down To that TV station. I walk in addition that build can, pre-Ladmo, and I got to pick a toy from the toy cottage. Here I am, 55 years old, and I’m Going back into that same Building, with Wallace and pat And we're going to be doing a Stage reading of the play "Wallace and Ladmo show" for About 100 people, and we're also Doing a pay-per-view of a Webcast for this for the people Who live out of state who grew Up with "Wallace and Ladmo Show." And that is the kind of stuff that really just turns my crank, Ted. I tell you. To think I was 8 years old, and now here I am coming back 47 Years later with this play.

Ted Simons: we've got the website up here now if you're interested in Helping out this effort and Learning more about this Centennial foundation, that's where you go.

Ben Tyler: everybody who shows up got A -- gets a Ladmo bag. They get to watch the play with Wallace and pat and I have a Punch Wallace and pat would autograph their bag on the way Out.

Ted Simons: I bet they would. I bet they would be the last Ones to leave, because they love their fans. Last question. You've written about all this Arizona history, from escaped POWs to a kids show. Do you ever want to write cat on A hot tin cactus or something Like that?
[Laughter]
Ted Simons: Is that in your future? Have you found your niche?

Ben Tyler: history has been my bent, but I do have an idea, I have ideas for plays that are fictitious. They're always going to be Arizona themed. Very quickly, my wife and I spent our honey at the San Carlos hotel. I'm looking at this picture of Mae West on the front desk, and the guy says, that's not really Mae West it's a look-alike. Whether they opened the movie here at the Orpheum the studio hired a bunch of look-alikes and had them drive around and wave at people. I thought what a great idea for a farce. Everyone thinks Mae West is in Town, only she's not.

Ted Simons: off and running.

Ben Tyler: yes.

Ted Simons: well, good luck with this. We'll keep an eye on what you're doing and what's getting produced. Good luck with "Wallace and Ladmo show."

Ben Tyler: Thank you so much.

Ted Simons: Tomorrow on "The Journalists' Roundtable," the latest on the ever evolving Russell Pearce recall election. And we'll talk about a plan to change the way Arizona elections are conducted. That's Friday on "the Journalists' Roundtable."

Ted Simons: and that is it for now. I'm Ted Simons. Thank you so much for joining us. You have a great evening.

Economic Outlook for Arizona

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  • Dr. Beckie Holmes, chief economist for Cox Communications, discusses the economic outlook for Arizona.
Guests:
  • Dr. Beckie Holmes - Chief Economist, Cox Communications
Category: Business/Economy   |   Keywords: Cox, economy, outlook,

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Ted Simons: Tomorrow the Greater Phoenix Chamber of commerce and Cox Communications are presenting an economic outlook for 2012 at a breakfast in downtown phoenix. One of the featured speakers is Dr. Beckie Holmes, director of marketing science and chief economist for Cox Communications. She joins us to share her Forecast for Arizona and the Nation's economies. Good to have you here.
Dr. Beckie Holmes: Thank you.
Ted Simons: Let's talk about Arizona first and let's talk about unemployment. What are you seeing?
Dr. Beckie Holmes: The unemployment rate is high; it's about the same as in the nation right now. It's expected to fall, but a lot of the reasons unemployment is falling right now is not necessarily good news. One of the things we've been seeing is people is dropping Out of the labor force because Unemployment duration has been quite long in this recession. So some of the reasons rates are ticking down are bad. And then some of them are good. We are actually creating jobs again in Arizona.

Ted Simons: Before we get to that, I think Ben Bernanke today said it’s a national crisis in that so many people have been out of Work for so long, they're losing touch with the job market.

Dr. Beckie Holmes: Right. Right. In my opinion this is one of the big issues that we're going to need to address. We've seen two groups of folks have been very impacted. One, men, ironically, and the other are younger people. Both of those groups of people have seen sharp drops in their Labor force participation, and that will hurt us in the future because as you said, they've lost dump with the job market, They're losing on skills, and It's going to be hard for them To get up the speed when the Economy recovers.

Ted Simons: here in Arizona, you're Thinking, what, job growth, but Weak in the next few years? Something along those lines?

Dr. Beckie Holmes: Right. So the outlook is for another Couple of years of below-average growth, we'll get to above average growth probably around 2014, 2015, but it's going to be a long recovery.

Ted Simons: Personal income, what do you see there?

Dr. Beckie Holmes: Personal income growth is very weak, but positive. If you look at a household basis, the recession was not kind to most households. Household incomes fell for the last couple years, and we have seen an increase in people in poverty. We're spending to see that reverse and start to see income Gains as the job market recovers, but it's going to be a slow process and it's going to take a while. On income, one of the confounding factors there is that a lot of the growth or stability in the income we've seen has been due to government support. Unemployment benefits, those things will go away. When they go away, if the economy is not there to pick up, it’s going to hurt income growth.

Ted Simons: Something else regarding income growth would be the kinds of jobs we wind up getting. A lot of folks say we're moving toward a service economy. Do you see this as well?

Dr. Beckie Holmes: It's definitely what we've seen in this recovery. The one sector that's turned in very solid growth has been Education and health services. So the population serving pieces of our economy have managed to be fairly stable. So jobs in health care and jobs in education have done ok, whereas if you look at more Goods producing jobs, not so Much. We've lost a ton of construction Jobs, a lot of manufacturing Jobs, and those aren't really expected to come back any time soon. So we're going to see some growth in population serving Industries, which tend to be Service related, and not a lot of growth and the more goods sector.

Ted Simons: When you say not for a while for manufacturing and Construction, what does that mean? When is "a while"?
[Laughter]
Dr. Beckie Holmes: I think for construction we’re going to need obviously a Demand for houses to return. That's probably three to four Years out still. We may see a little bit of improvement, we will build more than we did this year, which was almost nothing as we move forward. So we'll see construction picking up some, but not solidly, not strong growth, probably for a couple more Years. On manufacturing, that's a little different story. Our manufacturing industry here In Arizona is partially High-tech and partially Population serving. The high-tech sector is doing pretty well. And may continue to grow. The population serving sector is A little weaker. So we may not see especially since a lot of that manufacturing job was to serve the construction industry.

Ted Simons: For years Arizona was criticized as being too dependent on construction. One single element of the Economy was driving everything Else. Obviously that element has had its problems here, and you say it’s going to continue to have its problems for a while. Are we diversified -- silver Liking, are we diversifying, are We seeing things spread out, or Are we now as dependent on Retail as we used to be on Construction?

Dr. Beckie Holmes: I think the economic Development community has put a Lot of effort into finding other industries, diversifying our economy, trying to build a more after high-wage knowledge-based Economy. And we've seen some success, but That's a long-term strategy and It requires fundamental changes To our education system, and to Our somewhat to our tax Structure and some extent to the Perception of Arizona outside of The state.

Dr. Beckie Holmes: So I think that's a good Thing and we've seen some Success there, but housing is Always going to be important to Arizona, because we are hopefully a population, a state that has a lot of population growth. We can now see what Arizona Feels like without housing, and it’s definitely been painful.

Ted Simons: without population growth, either. Real quickly, the national Picture, everyone says a slow Recovery, same thing for you?

Dr. Beckie Holmes: that's what it's looking like for me too. Just like for the state, there's been a lot of sort of bad news in the last couple months, Increase in risks, so there's definitely the possibility we could dip into recession, but my Outlook for next year is for continued slow growth.

Ted Simons: Why isn't the job market recovering? Why is credit still tight? Why are these problems that we saw a year, two years ago, whatever, three years ago in some cases, why are they still hanging around?

Dr. Beckie Holmes: Right. You know, I think the short Answer is we're not going to fix the economy until we fix the Imbalances that got us into this mess. And the imbalances were essentially too much debt, and some -- that's really the major Thing. And so have we fixed the debt Problem? Sort of. So households have deleveraged Quite a bit, businesses have Refinanced and deleverage add Bit. The financial sector has reduced their debt quite a bit. But what have we done? Shifted a lot of that debt into The government sector. Now we're battling huge Government debt. And next year is going to be marked by the year where we try to fix the government debt Problem. This year we sort of fixed the Household problem. We're not going to I think pull Out of this until we manage to Get the debt burden down across the nation.

Ted Simons: but we will pull out no Double dip as far as you can see.

Dr. Beckie Holmes: That's my opinion right now.

Ted Simons: We'll hold you to it. Thank you so much for joining Us.

Dr. Beckie Holmes: thank you.

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