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October 7, 2013

Host: Ted Simons

Arizona Voter Registration

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  • Arizona Attorney General Tom Horne his issued a legal opinion that will impact how people can vote next year. Those who register to vote using a federal form will only be able to vote in federal elections. Those who register to vote using a state form will be able to vote in all elections. Horne’s legal opinion comes after a U.S. Supreme Court ruling that requires Arizona to allow people to register to vote using a federal or state form. The state form requires proof of citizenship, the federal form does not. Phoenix Attorney Joe Kanefield, a former elections director for Arizona, will discuss the issue.
  • Joe Kanefield - Attorney, Phoenix
Category: Legislature   |   Keywords: law, voter registration, elections, state, federal,

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Ted Simons: Good evening. Welcome to "Arizona Horizon." I'm Ted Simons. Arizona Attorney General Tom Horne today issued a legal opinion that impacts how people can vote next year. The opinion states that Arizonans who register to vote using a federal form will only be able to vote in federal elections. Those who register using a state form will be allowed to vote in all elections. Horne’s legal opinion comes after a U.S. Supreme Court ruling that prohibits Arizona from changing federal registration guidelines to include state requirements regarding proof of citizenship. Phoenix attorney Joe Kanefield, a former elections director for Arizona, joins us now to discuss the issue. Good to have you here. Thanks for joining us.

Joe Kanefield: Thanks Ted.

Ted Simons: Was this a surprise, this opinion?

Joe Kanefield: No. Not necessarily because after the U.S. Supreme Court opinion a while back we expected there would be some questions remaining. The court said the state could not refuse to accept federal forms, the federal form used by folks who register. But it left open the question of what happens when people use that form who don't comply with Arizona's registration requirements which include providing evidence of the United States citizenship when registering to vote.

Ted Simons: That basically is what the opinion is saying. It’s saying you can vote but you can only vote federal. You can't vote state.

Joe Kanefield: Yes, except only for those individuals that registered using the federal form that didn't provide evidence of U.S. citizenship. That's a very small number of people. I can't emphasize that enough that when we talk about two registration systems here we don't want anyone to believe that that means half the people are going to be registered only for federal elections and half for state and local elections. Really, about 99 percent of the people including those that register using the state form and those that register using the federal form are able to provide evidence of citizenship and meet the requirements. It's only a small percentage of people that use the federal form, the numbers I have are less than one percent of the people register using the federal form, and of that less than 10 percent of that, those individuals, were unable or did not provide evidence of U.S. citizenship. A small fraction of people that this impacts. It's not creating a major new registration system.

Ted Simons: And we should mention on those federal forms you are told under penalty of perjury as far as saying that you are indeed a citizen. It's not like it's scot-free there, you just right whatever you want to right there. They are noted there would be a penalty here.

Joe Kanefield: That's right. So when they do sign the form they do attest that they are U.S. citizens.

Ted Simons: It sounds from a distance here that this has got court challenge written all over it because basically the Attorney General is preventing registered voters from voting.

Joe Kanefield: Well, the Attorney General himself points out that there have been challenges in other jurisdictions, not Arizona where states have created two systems of registration, but he also notes that in all those challenges it didn't involve a situation quite like we have here where we have an evidence based requirement for people to register, show citizenship. If they don't, if they use the federal form and they are not able to provide it because they have not been instructed by the federal officials as to what Arizona's specific requirements are, then we would still let them vote because the federal law clearly says those individuals using that form have to be allowed to vote in federal elections, but it doesn’t say, no court has said that you must allow them to vote in the state and local elections. This is a little unique question, not that it won't be challenged but it would be one of first impression.

Ted Simons: Indeed, if it is challenged that will be the second plate spinning here. We already have another challenge regarding the U.S. Elections Commission I think along with Kansas, correct?

Joe Kanefield: Correct. The Attorney General and the Secretary of State both brought a challenge against the Election Assistance Commission, the federal agency that is charged with implementing the federal form, and the specific lawsuit deals with the federal government and this specific commission's failure to instruct Arizona voters who use the federal form about Arizona specific requirements. So this is in the nature of what we call a mandamus action or action to compel them to do what's required because in the U.S. Supreme Court's opinion on this subject, the court specifically said that states get to set the qualifications for their voters. The federal government can't change that. The fact that a state may require you to prove you have met those qualifications is a right enjoyed by the state, so a little bit of a disconnect because federal officials have to allow people to use the form but federal officials won't instruct Arizona voters using it about their specific requirements so that’s what that lawsuit is about. If the court rules in favor of the state of Arizona, state of Kansas, then really a lot of what is in the opinion is not relevant.

Ted Simons: Indeed, but back to the opinion, how much does it change things logistically? Can it be doable in time for next year's elections? What do you hear from elections officials?

Joe Kanefield: Absolutely. I talked to state and local officials to get a sense of what their thinking is. As a former state election officials myself, I know these things create a tremendous amount of work. The feedback that I heard was that this wasn't unexpected and they are ready to do this. It will be quite a bit of work but from the Maricopa County example there are 3,500 different ballots with all the different precincts and different parties. That means there will be 7,000 ballots, double that number, because they have to have one ballot which is federal candidates for these people who didn't provide evidence of citizenship and a different ballot style for everyone else. But they say they can do it.

Ted Simons: If they can do it, how much will it cost?

Joe Kanefield: That I don't know. It will increase costs, that's for sure.

Ted Simons: Last question before you go, the whole idea of noncitizens trying to vote, which is what this addresses, how much of a problem is that?

Joe Kanefield: I don't think it's a major problem frankly. But I do think that the state of Arizona and the citizens who passed Proposition 200 in 2004 overwhelmingly have every right to put procedures and laws in place to guard against any abuse of the elective franchise. If it means providing evidence of citizenship when registering or identification at the polls, the voters spoke clearly. They are okay with those requirements even though I think we recognize that it's not a huge problem which is a good thing. It means the system is working, the laws are working to prevent that kind of flaw from occurring.

Ted Simons: Yet I can hear critics now saying this makes voting more difficult. By making it more difficult it's not making it easier.

Joe Kanefield: I don't agree. I think that like I said this is a fraction of a percent of the voters that register to vote in Arizona. Most voters can use a driver's license number to provide evidence of citizenship. Those that don't have a driver's license there are other ways of establishing citizenship. Election officials have bent over backwards to put procedures in place that enable everyone to provide evidence and the proof that they need to become properly registered to vote.

Ted Simons: Joe, thank you very much.

AZ Giving and Leading: Crisis Nursery

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  • Since 1977, Phoenix-based Crisis Nursery Inc. has provided a shelter to children suffering from abuse, neglect or homelessness. Crisis Nursery also operates head start and foster care programs. Crisis Nursery Executive Director Marsha Porter will talk about her organization’s efforts to help protect children.
  • Marsha Porter - Executive Director, Crisis Nursery
Category: Giving/Leading   |   Keywords: organization, shelter, children,

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Ted Simons: Tonight's edition of Arizona Giving and Leading focuses on Crisis Nursery, a Phoenix based shelter that serves children suffering from abuse, neglect, homelessness. Crisis Nursery also operates Head Start and foster care programs. Joining us now is Marsha Porter, Executive Director of Crisis Nursery. Thank you so much for being here.

Marsha Porter: Thanks for the opportunity.

Ted Simons: Give me a better definition of Crisis Nursery.

Marsha Porter: Our mission is breaking the cycle of child abuse and neglect. We do that in a variety of ways, really starting where the family is at. We see children in crisis that have been removed from their families due to abuse and neglect or whose parents are just overwhelmed and might place them at our shelter or a child comes into one of our foster homes. We're also on the prevention side. We're a child welfare agency, we deal with at-risk families but we're trying to help them early on overcome some of the challenges they face and get their kids ready to succeed, have families make goals for themselves they can achieve. Our early Head Start and preschool program do that. On the back end our shelter and foster care are dealing with kids that have already been traumatized, giving them a chance to heal, opportunities to succeed and really a second chance at childhood.

Ted Simons: Crisis Nursery the name here, what kind of crises are you seeing and are these situations changing over time which means you need to change in terms of services and what you’re offering?

Marsha Porter: That’s exactly what we've done. Child abuse and neglect are the main issues that face many of the families, but those are compounded by poverty and sometimes caused by poverty, substance abuse, domestic violence. We're dealing with powder keg situations where at the same point in time parents really want to do the best they can. So if at all possible we can reach those families voluntarily before the state, CPS, needs to get involved, we know how overburdened they are. If we can reach parents at a time when there's potential for abuse and neglect that hasn't occurred yet we have found them very receptive to looking at ways to better parent and plan for their families.

Ted Simons: Have they been receptive? I would think coming to a family and saying we have some counseling, referrals, connections for you, we see there might be a problem it would seem to me that you would have a lot of families going you don't know what you're talking about.

Marsha Porter: I'm a firm believer most parents want to be the best parents they can. Many of them weren't parented themselves, don't have the tools and resources they need. If we can serve as a navigator for them –- they love their kids. Many times they have done some fairly heinous things to their kids out of ignorance, out of stress, out of anger. But I haven't yet met a parent that really didn't want to be a good parent. Many of them don't have the tools and resources they need.

Ted Simons: After they get the tools and resources and services that you offer, talk to us about that process. Are we talking long term, short term or just whatever gets the job done?

Marsha Porter: Whatever gets the job done. We’re able to be fairly flexible. We deal with the parents where they're at and what the issues are. In our early Head Start and foster care programs, many times children will stay with us for years. In our shelter sometimes it's just a day or two for a parent that's just overwhelmed to get back into -- get stuff together, have crisis averted. We will work individually with each parent based upon the need of the child and their families.

Ted Simons: You mentioned foster families. I would imagine some of those foster families need some counseling too.

Marsha Porter: They are unbelievable people. Imagine opening not only your heart but your home to children that you know very little about, and it is disruptive. We have families, foster specialists that work closely with families, help them advocate not only for services for that particular child or sibling group but also for the family itself. Introducing a new one, two or three children in the middle of the night sometimes is going to cause trauma in that family as well.

Ted Simons: Indeed, but those are amazing families.

Marsha Porter: They’re phenomenal.

Ted Simons: You talk about breaking the chain of child abuse, what is the biggest challenge in that getting done? Is there something out there more than anything else that you see is the biggest hindrance of breaking that chain?

Marsha Porter: I think hopelessness. I think we see a lot of families that generationally have lived in poverty, don't see a way up. I think helping them connect to the resources that are available, our community safety net has pretty much dismantled. So many times it requires a pretty skilled person to try to connect them with what still exists, but hopelessness is probably the most, the biggest challenge these families face.

Ted Simons: How do you deal with that then?

Marsha Porter: Directly. Basically figure out step by step -- them getting a house might not be an achievable goal in the next year or two years but them getting a job, even if it's ten hours a week, or them getting child care for their children, if you can take it step by step and they can see progress which many of them have never seen in their lives, that's their second chance.

Ted Simons: And that is the family. But the bottom line is the kid and reuniting with the birth family would obviously be the goal you're looking for here, but a lot of times that can't happen, can it?

Marsha Porter: Right. Our ultimate goal is to never have them have to be removed but when they have been, reunification is. Some families can't be reunified. For those children we are looking for permanency as expeditiously, and fairly to the parents, but as expeditiously for that child as we can. We see that in our foster care. I think Arizona’s foster care system now, about 50 percent of the children exiting are returning home. Another 50 percent are going to adoption or permanent placements with relatives.

Ted Simons: Obviously donations, money and time are important. I would imagine time is very important.

Marsha Porter: Without our community volunteers we could not provide the breadth of services we do. We have an amazing group of volunteers that not only care for our kids but that fundraises for us, that serve on our board. At any point in time we have about 250 active volunteers. We could not do what we do without them.

Ted Simons: How can folks get involved?

Marsha Porter: Get on our website. You can find out how to donate, how to volunteer, how to attend one of our events that benefits Crisis Nursery.

Ted Simons: Good to have you hear. Thanks so much for joining us.

Manufacturing Grant

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  • The Greater Phoenix Economic Council and Arizona State University were awarded a $170,000 grant from the U.S. Department of Commerce to accelerate manufacturing and aid in job creation. The “Investing in Manufacturing Communities Partnership” grant will be used to plan for an Innovation and Commercialization Center for Advanced Manufacturing in the Phoenix area. GPEC President and CEO Barry Broome and Sethuraman “Panch” Panchanathan, Senior Vice President for ASU’s Office of Knowledge Enterprise Development, will discuss the grant and the planned manufacturing center.
  • Barry Broome - President and CEO, GPEC
  • Sethuraman “Panch” Panchanathan - Senior Vice President, ASU’s Office of Knowledge Enterprise Development
Category: Business/Economy   |   Keywords: job, economy, grant,

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Ted Simons: ASU and the Greater Phoenix Economic Council were recently awarded a grant from the U.S. Department of Commerce to accelerate local job creation by developing an Innovation and Commercialization Center for Advanced Manufacturing in the Phoenix area. GPEC President and CEO Barry Broome and Sethuraman "Panch" Panchanathan, Senior Vice President of ASU’s Office of Knowledge Enterprise Development, both joining me now to discuss the grant and this planned manufacturing center. Good to have you both here.

Sethuraman “Panch” Panchanathan: Thank you for having us.

Ted Simons: Investing in Manufacturing Communities Partnership. Talk to me about this grant.

Barry Broome: The federal government is trying to promote an interface between industry and universities. That's been a big objective of GPEC over the last two years, to create the interface between ASU's technical capabilities, their engineering school, polytechnic, other assets, into the economy. This specifically will focus on building capabilities. We have over 3,000 manufacturers in the valley, not just Intel, Boeing and Honeywell, but build on the ability to create new technologies, like sensor technologies and an improved deliverable of talents. Hopefully, build and create new commercial ideas among the manufacturing sector to keep them current and to move them to an advanced state. We're already of the top 100 metros we're the 16th most advanced manufacturing market in the United States today.

Ted Simons: Are we talking mostly high-tech here or all kinds of manufacturing?

Sethuraman “Panch” Panchanathan: Primarily high-tech because if you look at our history, we have been very good in media symmetric manufacturing, manufacturing in the aerospace defense area, position control intimidation, etc. If you look at how we position ourselves using assets we already have in the region and how do you now take it to the next level. I'll give you one example. At ASU, we have been advancing this concept of flexible electronics with our flexible displacer using the investments already made for designing situational awareness displace for soldiers in the battlefield. So this is a technology that we are very advanced in in this region and we can be a national or global leader in this area. So that is an advanced manufacturing concept which can be used in health applications and energy applications, things of that nature where we can be a global leader.

Ted Simons: We have those ideas out there, the flexible display. We’ve actually done stories on that. That’s been out there for a while. $170,000 here. What does that pay for?

Barry Broome: It pays to build the plan. The center will be a public-private partnership between the GPEC and ASU to focus on the development of new technologies. It will be a commercialization center. There will be a network of manufacturers that will be able to go someplace to have their products tested from a prototyping standpoint but also at ASU we'll be able to build intellectual property strategies and technology platforms for these companies, help these companies understand how to develop their new ideas but also capture them so they can protect those ideas, take them to the marketplace and grow their business.

Ted Simons: Do you know where this is going to be located? Have you gotten that far along in the plan yet?

Barry Broome: We don’t. We do have a published criteria so when this gets rolled out, there will be a published criteria on how to site the center. Right now the most important thing for us is to be able to start to put an aggressive move on creating more innovation inside this manufacturing base. Semiconductor has gone from nearly 100,000 jobs to 19,000 jobs in the valley. We have sequestration which continues to put very serious threats on our aerospace defense base. From an economic perspective, in the last 25 years about nine percent of our growth has been in the advanced manufacturing sector. Eighty-five percent of our job growth is in consumption. That is a serious sustainability problem we have to take more aggressive actions to address.

Ted Simons: What are you hearing from start-ups, folks in the high-tech manufacturing arena? What do they need?

Sethuraman “Panch” Panchanathan: For example if you look at one of the needs that they have is how do you take an idea and prototype it in the fastest possible manner. We have now come up with this concept of a maker central area in Chandler, for example. One example of how you can have people who want to try their ideas come and use some of the facilities that we have to be able to quickly turn that idea into a product and see how the marketplace reacts to that kind of product. So we have multiple levels of engagement at the university. One is how do you get students trained in this new knowledge economy, in these ideas of advanced manufacturing? How do you make students prepare for that future? That's one thing. How do you take the assets of the university in terms of the intellectual break that we have got, as well as the depth in areas like electronics and supply chain, and so on, how do you connect it to this advanced manufacturing economy and make it something that the university can be a very strong partner in in the region?

Ted Simons: Is there a model out there that you're looking at or is this kind of starting ground up and seeing where we go from here?

Barry Broome: It's a long time ago, but there was a group called CAMP, which was a Cleveland Area Manufacturing Program, connected to Case Western Reserve, which is a very competent engineering school. It was doing everything from helping manufacturers move the lean process as well as developing new technologies. I thought it was a very successful program and it was modeled throughout the Midwest. That gives us a feel I think for what this center could look like.

Ted Simons: Is this a way, you mentioned that we're seeing some problems in the economy in a wide variety of ways, is this a way, though, for Arizona to lead or is it a way for to us play catch-up?

Barry Broome: Well, you know, we're kind of in both spots. There's still a tremendous amount of legacy talent here in manufacturing left over from Motorola, there's a lot of ex-Intel people in the marketplace running companies with 50 to 100 employees. I think we actually have a chance to capture a high-tech manufacturing position in the Mountain West. We do have to play a little bit of catch-up from our previous position in the country, in the world, but we're I think well positioned to do this.

Ted Simons: I asked whether there was a model, something to look back on as far as the university is concerned, Case Western notwithstanding, anything else out there that you say they are doing a good job with this?

Sethuraman “Panch” Panchanathan: Take Georgia Tech, for example. They do a good job in the Georgia area, in the Atlanta area. I think ASU is a world class place. By all ranking metrics, by all impact metrics, we know that ASU is recognized as a leader in entrepreneurship, innovation, research and in training and education of students. Now it's time for us to see how we can work collaboratively with GPEC and other economic dominant agencies to see how we can make this an economic engine for the economic development and economic future of Arizona. We're focused on that at ASU, how we can be a leader as a university but also a partner in making Arizona a leader in the innovation economy.

Barry Broome: One thing that's really important, though, is in one single appropriation from the Georgia legislature, Georgia Tech's engineering school is double the size of Arizona State. So one of the conversations we have been having in the community is how can we be world class if Arizona State University engineering is half the size of Georgia Tech or half the size of Stanford. Ultimately we're going to have to find another way to organize public investment into Arizona State specifically in this engineering objective to get ASU engineering at the caliber of Georgia Tech, at the caliber of Stanford in order for us to take a model like this from prototype to scale.

Ted Simons: It sounds like it’s time to get serious here. Thank you for joining us.