Horizon, Host: Ted Simons

February 19, 2013


Host: Ted Simons

Asian Voting Rate

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  • Much has been said about the Hispanic vote this past presidential election, but Asians voted for the president at an even higher rate. Find out more about the Asian vote with Arizona State University Asian American Pacific Studies Professor Wei Li.
Guests:
  • Wei Li - Asian American Pacific Studies Professor, Arizona State University
Category: Elections   |   Keywords: vote, voting, asian, rate, ,

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Ted Simons: Asians are the fastest growing group in the country, and in the last election Asian Americans went for President Barack Obama at a higher percentage than the more scrutinized Latino vote. Here to discuss the impact of Asian Americans and Arizona and American politics, is Wei Lee, a professor of Asian American Pacific studies. Thanks for joining us.

Wei Li: Thank you for having me.

Ted Simons: Surprised the Asian vote went so much for President Barack Obama?

Wei Li: No, because there is a national study shows in the past elections Asian Americans are increasingly voting for democratic candidates.

Ted Simons: Is that because they consider themselves more liberal than conservatives or is it because of the candidates?

Wei Li: It's more about the candidate. Because as Asians, we all know Asian Americans are a diverse group. Different people having, leaning towards the left or the right. So, it's more about how a candidate can relate and what platform a candidate has. And not just leaning towards one way or the other.

Ted Simons: We have charts here and the first one shows partisan leanings among voters, and 51%, a nonpartisan and look at those numbers going for the President.

Wei Li: Yes, exactly, and as we all know, Asian Americans have 73% vote for President Barack Obama this time. And there was -- there was 43% they were going to vote for President Barack Obama, but clearly, a lot of them make their decision last-minute.

Ted Simons: And some of the issues at the bottom of the chart now, we have some issues to look at, as well. And again, so many of those, now, is that a surprise to you to see these kinds of issues falling so heavily towards the President?

Wei Li: No, because when we see the chart, quite clearly, Democrats leaning, Asian Americans, are having some other concerns as other democratic leaning voters, versus Republican leaning voters, have similar issues as other Americans so that's a similar case with the national.

Ted Simons: So, what are Democrats doing right and what can Republicans do to change that?

Wei Li: I would first say if we are talking about Asian American voting, voting in general, right, I am glad that we have a good timing because today's Arizona Republic has an article about Latino votes, so, it seems to me that both parties, as well as media are, are increasingly interested in minority votes, and what they are thinking about, so the issue more is about, about how we practice democracy, right, instead of just quoting per se because if we are talking about democracy, we should encourage immigrants to become natural citizens and encourage all citizens to exercise their vote. And then respect whatever they are concerned about, whatever -- whoever they want to vote for. But, if a party, a particular democrat or a Republican or an independent or whatever party, I think that they should really try to understand what people are thinking and what they are, their needs are, instead of thinking more about how should we court more minority votes?

Ted Simons: But you know politics, and politics is the art of courting that by addressing needs, and if you were speaking in front of a group of Republicans, what would you tell them?

Wei Li: That's a good question. I never thought about that because I'm a professor and doing research.

Ted Simons: As far as what the research tells you, what would you tell them?

Wei Li: I would say clear, think about what people are caring about, what their issues are and what they really want the parties to do for them. For instance, like I gave you a, a, an example, that was in California, and data, they said the last election, about 82% of Asian-Americans in California voted for President Barack Obama. Listed the immigration theme a very important issue, and also, there was an informal survey among some ASU, Asian American and native Hawaiian, Pacific islander students, faculty, some of them clearly said that they could relate with Obama better than, than Romney. So, these are the issues people do care. They think about what is related to their daily life, and also, in addition to their leaning towards right or left or right.

Ted Simons: Let's look at the other chart here regarding the number of Asian Americans in Arizona. And I found this was interesting in the sense that, that Filipinos in terms of total, number one, and I think that that would surprise some folks. It also shows that Asian Indians grew the fastest in the 2000, and yet, explain to me why so much growth with Asian Indians and yet so little in the way of naturalization, and yet, the Vietnamese. Look at the naturalization, what's going on there?

Wei Li: That's, actually, very interesting issue to look at. If we look at data because these are the U.S. Canadians data. Clearly, both, both Filipino and Asian Indians, more than doubled their number in the State of Arizona. Actually, to me, somewhat surprised about the Latino increase.

Ted Simons: Yes.

Wei Li: But for the Asian indian like we discussed two years ago, more about the High-tech industry, and they were very highly educated and hired by a lot of big companies. Doing High-tech industry, so, if we look at those, those different columns, clearly, they have very, very, they have five major Asian American groups, have very fast growth rate. And a majority of them were all groups, more than two-thirds of them were foreign born, meaning they are immigrants in this country and, and the highest being 8%, lowest being Chinese and 7%, and look at the second to the last column, how many of the percent them are, actually, emigrated in the last decade alone, right? 54% of Asian Indians, emigrated just last ten years, from 2010 to, up from 2000 to 2010, so it takes five years to apply to become that.

Ted Simons: There you go.

Wei Li: It takes much longer, that's why it's the lowest.

Ted Simons: Right, and Vietnamese, who had, had the lowest amount in terms of the immigration is because they were here the longest, and they wound up having the time to go -- ok. With those numbers, there is so many numbers to look at and you talked about, about leaning left or right, and mostly of a candidate, what do we take from all of this? What do we take from this increasing impact and the increasing numbers and information of the Asian American vote? What are we learning here?

Wei Li: I think that most important is to, again, encourage lprs, legal permanent resident to become a U.S. citizen so that encourages them to access their right to vote. So, I think that one other thing is, is Asian American groups are so diverse, we heard about this mass saying that they are all a minority, which is not the case, as we, we can see the next chart, which shows that they are, they are, there is a variation in education, so, different people have, have different groups have different education levels so they have different issues. They have to deal with. So, I think that, that the political party really needs to learn from these people what they are thinking about, and what their issues.

Ted Simons: And before we go, it is interesting from your research, Indians and Koreans tend to lean democrat, Filipinos and Vietnamese tend to lean Republicans. Isn't that something?

Wei Li: That's a national data. That's national data, not Arizona. Unfortunately.

Ted Simons: Ok.

Wei Li: We don't have local data to really prove that these are mixed with the national data.

Ted Simons: All right. And very good information and good to have you here. Thanks for joining us. We appreciate it.

Wei Li: Thank you, thank you. Thank you very much.

Jeremy Rowe's Arizona Photos

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  • Jeremy Rowe’s vintage Arizona photos bring our state’s history to life. Take a look at more of Rowe’s photos as he talks through their historical significance.
Guests:
  • Jeremy Rowe
Category: The Arts   |   Keywords: Rowe, Arizona, photo, photos, ,

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Ted Simons: Arizona celebrated it's 101s birthday last week. And tonight, we look through some remarkable photos and images of Arizona's past, courtesy of historian Jeremy Rowe, the owner of vintagephoto.com. And it is good to see you again, and I want to thank you to letting us use your images throughout the year on "Arizona Horizon" as we have the bumpers and separators there. It's really good stuff. Where do you get this stuff?

Jeremy Rowe: I've been collecting for a little over 30 years, and antiques stores, friends, and trade shows, advertising, e-bay, all the sources, and over time, you sort clustering things together and getting stories between the images as they form patterns as you find more information about the images and the photographers.

Ted Simons: Is it, is it as much investigate as it is just serendipity?

Jeremy Rowe: Serendipity is a big one. The luck of what you find and what you can identify and what somebody else recognizes and identifies correctly so you can put pull it back, same as if you are in a museum or an archive, if you can find it, and try to identify it and find the story behind it.

Ted Simons: Let's take a look at some of these images. I want it start with paper documents, the first is this territorial appointment, and this is fascinating stuff. And talk to us about this.

Jeremy Rowe: This is from the state library and archives, fountain at the Arizona historical foundation in the files a couple of years ago, it had been missing, and this is a, a document that helped to establish Arizona as a territory, from the time that Arizona started, Arizona and New Mexico were joined and there's interest in forming a state, this is a document that establish the Arizona territory in 1860.

Ted Simons: And this one we're looking at is Abraham Lincoln's signature on the top. That was signed by Lincoln because is it true that the territory, the area seceded?

Jeremy Rowe: We were a confederate territory first, last week was the 151st anniversary of the territory of Arizona, as well. So, February 14th, the same day as we were assigned, the document signed making us a state, we were also a confederate territory prior to that, and that's, that document made us a union territory.

Ted Simons: That led the union to say, enough of that, and let's --

Jeremy Rowe: There is a battle between slave holding states and non slave holding states, Arizona was going to be a slave-holding state. The other direction was a union holding state.

Ted Simons: There is a Steamboat expedition of the Colorado river, and this, we're talking like 1857, that's a proclamation there now, and --

Right.

Jeremy Rowe: And this establishes the Governor and building the enterprise for the state or the territory at that point to make the territory viable.

Ted Simons: Ok. We have the Steamboat there because it is going up to Colorado and we don't want to miss it. We'll get to it.

Jeremy Rowe: Right, the Steamboat is, from the Ives expedition, after the Gadsen purchase there was interest to find out what was happening in Arizona and getting a story of the territory, mapping it and figuring out what opportunities there, and this was a Steamboat that went up the Colorado river to the grand canyon, and the illustrations from this are the first images that people see of the territory. First time people had seen the native population here, and this is the saguaro cacti, that's an example of the kind of artistic license that was used during that time. With the 60-foot tall cacti and the elaborate look and feel there and the exploding ends on the cactus when they die and one in the back corner.

Ted Simons: So if I'm an easterner and I'm hearing about the wild Arizona and look at this photo, or this visual, and I'm thinking, it's crazy out there. That's like another planet.

Jeremy Rowe: You could see the pyramids in Egypt. The same. These are, this is the same experience people had of a new, unique area, and it fascinated people. And photography wasn't active in Arizona. There were no images that show up until the 1960s, and the 1970s when necessity pick up, so most of the representations you see are elaborate, and they are, they are, they have an artistic license, they are not as accurate which causes the issues with how Arizona was seen during that time.

Ted Simons: Right. And that's some of the tallest cactus that they could imagine. And they put people in there to make a scale.

Jeremy Rowe:Exactly.

Ted Simons: Our next shot here, this, now, it strikes me that when you talk 1865, you are not going to get much earlier in the way of photographer of Arizona than this?

Jeremy Rowe: There were photographs made in California but in Arizona, this is the earliest one that I could find. This is the fall of 1864, January 1865. These are the Papago warriors that were coming back to the territory. This is made by a gentleman that was on an exploratory expedition who happened to be a photographer, and these are -- I have got some in my collection, and a couple in the collection in Berkeley, as well, but, images of Arizona, fascinating view of what life was like and the way that people dressed.

Ted Simons: And stereo phonic, too. They started with advance technology.

Jeremy Rowe: And the stereo is the most common format. Most people don't know it's the most common format for early Arizona images, a popular one for photographers because it was easy to use, and light, fast exposure, and a market for the images so a lot of the images that you see were made in stereo, but they only reproduced one side so one of my, my sort of banners that I carry, trying to get stereo, and the photography, recognized for the importance, and I'm finishing up a book on that now that will hopefully be out soon.

Ted Simons: Very good, and our next photograph is from 1880 or so, this is Yuma, and it shows a, a Steamboat, I believe, in the lower left-hand side there.

Jeremy Rowe: Yuma was one of the biggest areas as far as traffic during this early time period. And people were sending things from California around Baja up to, to Yuma and up the Gila river into the central part so if you were doing a mine or a development, you need it bring things across into the territory, you could not just go across from Los Angeles the way that they do now, it was a more difficult practice. And the Steamboats were very, very highly sought and important during that time. And this shows the Steamboat, dry dock and the adobe buildings and the simple layout of Yuma at that time.

Ted Simons: And that's Yuma?

Jeremy Rowe: Yes.

Ted Simons: Back in the 1880s, and our next shot is of a railroad bridge, Sam area, and this is fascinating because it just -- these are native Americans watching what's going on here.

Jeremy Rowe: Right, and probably helping --

Ted Simons: Right.

Jeremy Rowe: And the railway was coming across, that was competing with the Steamboats, they had a monopoly and the railroad pushed across and reached Yuma, and this is the construction of the bridge, this is a purchase, that's a blueprint made with iron instead of silver and was a popular process for people to use. But they are very rare and hard to find from this era. From Arizona. But, this is the Yuma tribe, watching the construction and gives an idea how it was done.

Ted Simons: Fascinating stuff. And you mentioned silver, the silver mine in the Santa rita mountains south of Tucson. We have another stereograph image from 1878, my goodness.

Jeremy Rowe: This is the party left from you came across. They were following the mines and mining was a big deal in Arizona, very popular activity. And people were looking to invest here, and they want to see what the mines looked like and get a feel for what the environment was like and what the mine works looked like and the money was going towards.

Ted Simons: Last, we have fort McDowell, and I found it fascinating and I still find it fascinating. Fort McDowell was here before Phoenix was established to serve -- Phoenix was established to support fort McDowell.

Jeremy Rowe: Jack Swelling put the canals together to raise alfalfa and material for the fort, which was established in 1868 to protect the center part of the state.

Ted Simons: And these are fascinating images. We need to get you back because you have so much more and we appreciate your help on "Arizona Horizon." Good to see you and thanks for joining us.

Jeremy Rowe: Ok.

Legislative Update

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  • Join us for our weekly update from the Capitol with a reporter from the Arizona Capitol Times.
Category: Legislature   |   Keywords: legislative, update, legislature, ,

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Ted Simons: Good evening and welcome to "Arizona Horizon." I'm Ted Simons. A bill was introduced today that would allow staff members to carry guns on Arizona campuses. For more on that and other legislative news, we welcome Luige Del Puerto of the Arizona Capitol Times, our weekly legislative update and lots of stuff going on, it sounds like the committee action is hot and heavy, and we have got this one now, what are we talking about here?

Luige Del Puerto: So, a few weeks ago, attorney John Tom horn would prefer each school have a police officer but that would be too costly, and the second best option is, is to allow schools to designate a staffer to be able to carry a forum on the campus and, and be where had to defend a school in case of an attack so this legislation, facilitates that program. And so, the office would be, and their proposal would be able to train school officers who are designated by school officials, and they will be trained about gun safety, how to, to, you know, handle stress, and even confront a deranged man, and so, all those gun training that would, to his mind, be useful in case there is an attack on the campus.

Ted Simons: And now, this is one school staff member designated. A number of designated staff members, how does that work?

Luige Del Puerto: The proposal says that, that the school would have one, one staffer who would be able to carry a firearm and in a secured area on campus.

Ted Simons: It probably is at least one.

Luige Del Puerto: Right.

Ted Simons: And I would imagine if another person is trained in the same way, although, again, I guess the idea, it sounds like what horn was trying to say is you don't want no guns, which is the current situation but you don't want everyone and their brother with guns.

Luige Del Puerto: And in fact, he was saying this is, really, our second best option, and we don't want to create a situation where everybody can carry guns on campus and, and again, claiming that that's the best way to defend the school in case of an attack. At the same time, we don't want to not do anything. So, he's saying, ok, so, you know, putting a police officer on the campus would be too expensive, and it's not an option, so, you know, let's, let's try this one out.

Ted Simons: Mandatory or optional?

Luige Del Puerto: Optional for schools, so the bill by David Stevens would give school districts the ability to do it or not.

Ted Simons: And three-day training program with all this stuff. I think that sometimes, people forget that, that those who are trained in law enforcement and the military and such, these are people who will give their lives for others, and that's a lot of, a lot to ask for a school teacher who all of a sudden is faced with a crazy man with a gun.

Luige Del Puerto: And certainly, and in fact, during their Press Conference today, there was a substitute teacher who was featured as one of the speakers, and she, basically, said that she's ready to defend the school, and if need be to kill, if that's necessary, and to confront somebody, shoot that person, and if that's what is necessary. And she also said that she is trained for it. And she said that many feel, many teachers feel the way that she feels but they are not able to express, as well as, because of fear, a reprisal.

Ted Simons: So how likely is something like this to pass?

Luige Del Puerto: That's, that's a tough question, but, the Governor already said, and I think the Governors indicated that she doesn't want to see an expansion of, of, of having the ability to carry guns on K-12 schools. So this would be a hard sell as a result of it, and I recall last year or the year before the govern vetoed a bill that would allow the guns on the campuses, and so, I'm assuming this legislation would have, have a hard time getting out of the state legislature and if he did, the Governor is, is likely to veto this proposal.

Ted Simons: Interesting. And before we go, I will let you go, I should say, there is a panel now deciding that a U.N. sustainability declaration from, what, 20 some odd years ago, if, if someone decides we follow that, we cannot follow it? What?

Luige Del Puerto: Basically, the legislation is that, that has been introduced in previous sessions, the sponsor is, a state Senator named Judy bergess, and the idea is that we don't want the united nations dictating or in any way having the ability to, to control American lives and so, this proposal is a reaction to the rio declaration from 1992 on, on environment and sustainability. And she is saying, basically, she believes that, that this, this agenda 21, this, the principles laid out may be a way, a sinister way, if you will, to control the American public.

Ted Simons: I believe that she used that, the U.N. program is sinister and dark.

Luige Del Puerto: I think she also used evil seductions of the united nations.

Ted Simons: Evil seductions to the united nations. It sounds like as though this hearing was, was a bit of a rally. There was call and response and all sorts of stuff.

Luige Del Puerto: Yes, she was asking the people if they would like their private property to be controlled by Government, for example, and of course, they said no. A resounding no.

Ted Simons: So basically, got the crowd into it, and it sounds like a rally.

Luige Del Puerto: Well, in a way it is. Although it's interesting because, in a typical committee hearing, the audience is not supposed to cheer or, or, you know, shout or anything like that. And I have seen previous, the previous chairman gavel them to order as soon as they try that.

Ted Simons: And business leaders, they are not exactly excited about something like this?

Luige Del Puerto: No. They oppose it, not because they like the rio declaration, but they say that the legislation is too broad, and that it would, it would probably touch other things that are not intended to be touched.

Ted Simons: Too hard to follow, I would imagine, for lots of businesses.

Luige Del Puerto: Yeah, and I think one of them mentioned they would have to go through all the laws and the rules that we have and try to see, try to ensure that it does not run counter to the proposal. Assuming it gets out of the legislature and the united nation, the evil body that's about to control the American public --

Ted Simons: From guns on campuses to the sinister and dark united nations, the capitol has it covered, don't they?

Luige Del Puerto: They do.

Ted Simons: Good to have you here.

Luige Del Puerto: Thank you.

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